tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post9102758460033098670..comments2023-11-03T01:13:12.512-07:00Comments on the mama: Retreat and Surrenderbonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01844859687652489596noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-69668411793891785232007-11-06T10:30:00.000-08:002007-11-06T10:30:00.000-08:00Pres. Kimball admonished the members of the Church...Pres. Kimball admonished the members of the Church to stop having such retreats. It takes women away from their primary obligations and mostly leads to gossip, "true confessions", and hurt feelings. Have your Bishop find the letter about retreats that was sent out in the late 80's by the First Presidency. This stuff should never have taken place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-7171094250686098752007-09-25T19:48:00.000-07:002007-09-25T19:48:00.000-07:00Honey, you don't deserve that - not from sister st...Honey, you don't deserve that - not from sister stick-up-her-butt, not from anybody. That is out and out discrimination. The whole weekend was a disaster, and if the point of the course was to build your confidence they did a whole effing lot to crush it.<BR/><BR/>AT A MINIMUM I think you should write a letter to them now. <BR/><BR/>I know that you are good at saying your piece after the fact - I hate to see you get buried in the moment. I do.the Dread Pirate Rackhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06758895507726373202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-89344803083720191222007-09-19T10:43:00.000-07:002007-09-19T10:43:00.000-07:00I read your post yesterday and fretted about it al...I read your post yesterday and fretted about it all evening. My heart aches for you. No one should make you feel uncomfortable!<BR/><BR/>On the snoring: How about: "I think my nasal passages where stuffed because some one kept passing gas over on your side of the room." ;)<BR/><BR/>As for not being able to particpate. Don't beat yourself down on your weight. What about others who wouldn't be able to participate for one reason or another? What if someone had back surgery? What about people, who like me are chickensh*ts? I would have been sitting out right next to you. Should I feel guilty becuase I'm a pansy? Should we look down on the person with the bad back because she can't tough through the pain? <BR/><BR/>I agree with you that they need to find an ALL-inclusive alternative.<BR/><BR/>I second (and third and fourth.. ad infinitum) the other comments that encourage you to be proud of yourself. Focus on the bigger picture - a healthy lifestyle. You are a beautiful woman no matter what the scale says!Lynannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02416883491055528952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-29697414160680497702007-09-18T19:38:00.000-07:002007-09-18T19:38:00.000-07:00I am soo sorry this happened. The organizers shou...I am soo sorry this happened. The organizers should be aware that next year - different options need to be available. Please write the letter.<BR/><BR/>You can do the weight loss thing - look how much you have accomplished in your life. You have what it takes, you are an amazing woman - amazing, you can do anything!!! - I'm with you!Fantastagirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02415501560624761755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-88748450710707980642007-09-18T14:40:00.000-07:002007-09-18T14:40:00.000-07:00I think 5 pounds is AWESOME! When I did ww they sa...I think 5 pounds is AWESOME! When I did ww they said only expect to loose 1 pd a week--that was wonderful! So I think you are doing awesome!! Don't get discouraged!<BR/><BR/>I am so sorry that your week turned out so bad....you could have called us and we would have come to get you....we could have went to a movie with a big ol' bucket of popcorn and Dr. Pepper! It would have been worth the 200 points :)! <BR/><BR/>There always has to be one Onery ol' woman at every get together( I just don't get it)...Every party has a pooper that's why we invited you....Sis crustpants!Brittanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11873686292683645805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-944333175891303122007-09-18T11:55:00.000-07:002007-09-18T11:55:00.000-07:00Bon, I am so glad that you made it through. I kno...Bon, I am so glad that you made it through. I know how horribly disappointed I would have been if something I looked forward to had turned out so badly. It is really too bad that the people responsible had no idea that the activities they planned could be so exclusive. I think you are just the person to clue them in. That way this sort of thing never has to happen again. It sucks to be a spokesperson but I do believe some of us are born with the ability.<BR/><BR/>P.S. I think you are doing fabulous with the WW thing. Don't let anything discourage you. If you could survive the past year you can reach any goal you set for yourself!Mama Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13581319298585887199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-58317588004869803032007-09-18T09:28:00.000-07:002007-09-18T09:28:00.000-07:00Props to you dear! I think you handled the whole t...Props to you dear! I think you handled the whole thing better than I would have. I am sorry your ward was soooo focused on their mark, that they looked beyond it and missed it completely. If this activity was about bringing the sisters together, they have totally failed. How sad. I am just heartbroken for you, and there is NO way I could shake that other sister's remark off, that would have killed me/made me furious. Yikes. Hugs to you honey. You are loved.Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15530972001172936718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-7061471126178507422007-09-18T08:55:00.000-07:002007-09-18T08:55:00.000-07:00Ugh Bon, that's horrible. I probably couldn't hav...Ugh Bon, that's horrible. I probably couldn't have kept my mouth shut after the "they won't drop you" comment.<BR/><BR/>An etiquette forum I visit often advises the comeback, "Wow, that's an interesting assumption!" Said with the right inflection you could have had the ropes ladies absolutely appreciating your wit and grace.<BR/><BR/>...and then you would have been asked to plan the event next year........The Absent Minded Housewifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14367710044518218570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-61962831313450480372007-09-18T07:15:00.000-07:002007-09-18T07:15:00.000-07:00You are loved and the rest, just stuff that comes ...You are loved and the rest, just stuff that comes with the territory. You are clever and certainly blessed and I do love reading your blog. RBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-61248321355490267692007-09-17T23:18:00.000-07:002007-09-17T23:18:00.000-07:00Oh Bon! That sounds horrible. I feel your pain i...Oh Bon! That sounds horrible. I feel your pain in so many ways. Sister gottasleep was completely uncalled for. Also 5 lbs in 2 weeks is fabulous. I have started and stopped so many diets this year alone that I'm kicking myself. Stick with it.Amberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219151687274590976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-55219455968568609032007-09-17T23:17:00.000-07:002007-09-17T23:17:00.000-07:00Y'all are some true friends, and I tell ya... if t...Y'all are some true friends, and I tell ya... if they try and pull this activity again next year, I WILL be having a quiet chat with the organizers... because, like Shoeaddict says, I am that sassy bigger girl who can take it. And I couldn't take it. What about those who are less sassy?<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying "don't do it" to the activity...it looked like most of the women (my friends) had a real meaningful experience. I am just saying "have an alternative as well." I would have chosen the alternative.<BR/><BR/>But I will only be having that chat if they do this again. I know these women, they would feel very bad if they had any idea what this felt like for me. Was never their intention.<BR/><BR/>As for Sister Crustypants, that was totally HER. I just couldn't shake it like I usually do, so "meh" to both of us!bonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01844859687652489596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-11804035805225480292007-09-17T20:49:00.000-07:002007-09-17T20:49:00.000-07:00Ditto to elizasmom (especially the parts about the...Ditto to elizasmom (especially the parts about the letter and the five pounds).<BR/><BR/>I feel your pain in every chubby inch of me.Jessica G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10641255166732692924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-31892538773615545582007-09-17T18:48:00.000-07:002007-09-17T18:48:00.000-07:00I am completely with my daughter, Elizasmom. Only ...I am completely with my daughter, Elizasmom. Only she said it so much more nicely. This was either criminally stupid or ruthlessly thoughtless. Don't do that ever again. Unless, of course, a few years down the road, you would like to turn this awful experience into something positive. You could be there for other women, to encourage them to do just what they feel comfortable with and enjoy whatever they can get out of this retreat. That would be a very kind thing to do, and maybe show the organizers a way of how things can be done much more graciously. And I admire you for confronting your feelings and writing them down. That's brave, and it also is a big step to deal with them. Lots of fuzzy hugs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-31932301606043467152007-09-17T17:14:00.000-07:002007-09-17T17:14:00.000-07:00I'm sorry. It sounds awful.I don't understand how...I'm sorry. It sounds awful.<BR/><BR/>I don't understand how people think that they can be that way and it's all right.<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't go next year either, but if "they" asked, I'd tell them why!sarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16144333694009700155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-69015837000262632762007-09-17T16:56:00.000-07:002007-09-17T16:56:00.000-07:00You do have what it takes to take it off and keep ...You do have what it takes to take it off and keep it off. Just look at all the other things you have conquered. <BR/><BR/>It sucks that the people who plan that and the instructors are insensitive boobs. They don't know you very well or they wouldn't have hurt you like that.Shellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10341933256374692576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-59757747137838986522007-09-17T16:49:00.000-07:002007-09-17T16:49:00.000-07:00Ouch. What a weekend for you. But now you are ho...Ouch. What a weekend for you. But now you are home and back in the blogosphere where everyone loves you!Annie Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07123644833186800503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-70585261077645606042007-09-17T16:43:00.000-07:002007-09-17T16:43:00.000-07:00Mean people suck. I know how bad it hurts to be th...Mean people suck. I know how bad it hurts to be the "bigger" girl, to be the fun, sassy, one that can "take it". <BR/><BR/>I don't understand how this exercise is very Christian-like when it excludes people of a certain weight or if they are older or have disabilities. How is that bringing women together?shoeaddicthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06540488940347979388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-39981543614013704422007-09-17T16:41:00.000-07:002007-09-17T16:41:00.000-07:00Oh, bon, that sounds AWFUL. I send you cyberhugs a...Oh, bon, that sounds AWFUL. I send you cyberhugs and big ups to Dadguy for being so supportive! This sounds like it was so, so poorly handled from start to finish. <BR/><BR/>I have been a part of spiritual events that involve physical exertion, so I know that it can be done in a way that challenges everyone at their level without making half the group feel like crud. This was not your failing, it was theirs, 100 percent!<BR/><BR/>The Grumpy Sleeper was not the organizers' fault, but a quiet word to her from the organizers about how unChristian her comments were would not have been out of place.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what the culture in this group will allow, but a letter explaining why you have no intention of attending next year might not be amiss.<BR/><BR/>As for Weight Watchers, woman, you've lost 5 pounds already?! That doesn't sound like someone who doesn't have what it takes!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18298740.post-68912972822257170262007-09-17T15:19:00.000-07:002007-09-17T15:19:00.000-07:00Not Fair. Nope, not fair. They should pick a slow ...Not Fair. Nope, not fair. They should pick a slow group hike if they want to do something physical. <BR/><BR/>I am sorry that it went so badly. You're one lucky duck to have a good place to come home to. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com